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Review: The Trilby Connection

This past week I got myself The Trilby Connection by Headhacking.

Here are my impressions.

1. The packaging is a box that comes apart in the middle, revealing the main ‘book’ with DVD’s inside and a bonus DVD. It feels expensive and hints to the high production values of the HH crew.

2. I popped the first DVD into my PC and it ran fine. The first DVD is primarily about a woman named Sarah learning street hypnosis from Anthony Jacquin. He goes through set pieces, inductions, and routines. The most valuable bit to me is when a fresh hypnochimp is brought in a Sarah gets a chance to dive right in and try it all out. You get to see her beginner mistakes, and even more importantly you get to see how even a real beginner can get the phenomena.

3. I get bored easily. Especially with hypnosis products. Many teachers drone on and on about their pet theories and ideas and I often find myself jumping ahead to the actual demos. Not this time. The editing is very very tight. It’s demo after demo with the very bare minimum of theory mixed in.

4. On the second DVD you get to see Sarah go out into the real world and do street hypnosis. You then see Anthony Jacquin and Kev Sheldrake review it and break it all down. Once again, an extremely valuable piece. You get too see how even after world class instruction, Sarah fails. You see how and why she fails, and you then see how she succeeds. In a world of ‘buy this DVD and become an instant master hypnotist’, you get a dose of reality. Yes, the techniques are pretty blletproof, but at the same time it is inevitable that a beginner will have some missteps.

5. Also on the second DVD are routines from Anthony and a few other hypnotists. Also reviewed and broken down by Anthony and Kev. This gives you a real good sense of how smooth you can get after some good practice and a good sense of how it makes all the difference in the world. This part is invaluable for modeling and getting a felt sense of how it looks when it all comes together.

In the end, in my opinion, The Trilby Connection is a flawless piece of work. The technical aspects are perfect and the packaging is beautiful. It has a real nice feel in your hand. As well, you get to see the techniques taught in a clear and simple manner. You then get to see them tested on a subject by the student. It’s all then taken out to the real world by both a beginner and by a master. Seeing hypnotists work in the real world with unconditioned street people is quite often the missing bit for many beginners. Seeing the progression of a new student is also something that’s a rare find. The Trilby Connection has both.

Until this point I have recommended that my beginning students purchase two books. “Reality is Plastic” by Anthony Jacquin, and “Hypnotherapy” by Dave Elman.

After watching Trilby, it will now go on that short list as the third must have product for the beginning hypnotists.

It’s that good.

Joe

June 19, 2011   No Comments

What is Hypnosis Part 3, James Tripp Responds

Here is a recent discussion James Tripp and I had via email.

James is a master hypnotist and changework artist. Go check out his work. It will be well worth your time and money.

What do you think?

James Tripp:

OK, I think we are on a similar page (maybe).

I would agree that state shifts are part of hypnosis… that state shifts must happen, otherwise NOTHING has happened! For me, hypnosis is the process of shifting/attenuating/amplifying ‘state’… although it is really the experienced reality that is my focus rather than the state.

I totally agree that that dissociation thing just isn’t it. If anything, ASSOCIATION is what is more important! How richly the subject associates into the experience.

I agree also that dreams are not a special thing – IMO they are our brain doing what it does all day long, shaping our experience. When we ‘dream’ the external data-feed is switched off so we can spin out more creatively. In hypnosis the external data-feed is not always switched off, but we do get to influence what data is paid attention to, and also how it is interpreted. We can utilise it and make it part of a new experience of reality. So state shifts as attention shifts.

Al the very best

James

My response:

Perfect.

It’s dissociation from one stimulus and association into another. Responsiveness is a zero sum game.

The thing is that dissociation from external experience (while maintaining awareness) IS a special state (measurable on a brain scan) sometimes. It’s called REM and hypnogogia.

And so it’s entirely possible that using suggestion and relaxation we can is some cases put someone into that measurable state. Hence they tune out unimportant external stimulus (anything but the hypnotist), and the hypnotist becomes their reality.

You (James) do it primarily by increasing association to the hypnotist. As a side effect they dissociate from external things. Awareness is a zero sum game. Jon (Chase) however goes the other way. He dissociates them from external things. Then there is the space for the hypnotist to be reality.

As REM is a special state, Jon sees this level of dissociation from external reality to also be a special state. A bit ‘lighter’ then sleep, but quite close. As Elman says.

And so realize that relaxation helps you! It dissociates them from external stuff and therefore they can associate into you the hypnotist. Thats also the idea of ‘deeper deeper’. It means ‘deeper inside and away from regular external existence’. That creates space for the hypnotist.

And so we’re all one happy family!

Joe

May 16, 2011   7 Comments

Hypnosis Against Someones Will

Perhaps one of the most asked questions that I get as a hypnotist is “can you hypnotize someone to so something against their own will?”

It’s a good question, an important question, but a very poorly worded question.

Here’s why. Hypnotists are very good with words, frames, and manipulating your perception of reality. And so once you ask a question that leaves certain abstract concepts like ‘hypnosis’ ‘will’ ‘against’ and ‘do’ open, that leaves space for the hypnotist to manipulate the answer to imply what he wants you to believe and still say ‘the truth’.

And so here is the question reworded. Without any wiggle room. If you want to know the answer to that big question, here is how you ask it…

-Say it’s 1980 and the USA and the USSR and at war. You live in Moscow. You are Russian, but you love the good ‘ol USA. You have just secretly found out that Colonel Alex (a committed Russian patriot who believe the USA is the root of all evil and must be destroyed) has punched in the launch codes to nuke the USA. The nukes will launch tomorrow at 12PM unless you get the redirect codes out of him. If you do punch in the redirect codes, the nukes will be rerouted to Colonel Alex’s home town and will kill his family. It’s your only option.

Here are 3 scenarios.

1. Colonel Alex has come to you the hypnotist for nail biting. You have just tested for name amnesia and it has worked as far as you can tell.

2. Colonel Alex has come to you the hypnotist for nail biting. It’s the beginning of the session, and you have no idea as to his level of commitment, his capability as a subject, or his ability to follow instructions.

3. You meet Colonel Alex in a bar. You can’t mention hypnosis, mentalism, or magic, as Alex has been warned to never speak to a hypnotist, mentalist, or magician.

In each scenario, out of 10 random times, in how many would you be able to get the launch codes out of Alex? You have no knives or guns with which to threaten him. You also are a lot weaker then him physically. He also knows that you aren’t authorized to get the codes no matter what you tell him.

Here are my answers.

Scenario 1 9/10
Scenario 2 6/10
Scenario 3 2/10

What are yours?

Comment and share.

May 13, 2011   10 Comments

What is Hypnosis Part 2, De-constructing Heap

Michael Heap has written a wonderful article on hypnosis. You can find it here.

I think that it’s a wonderful article. Heap comes very very close to understanding hypnosis.

In light of my recent understandings I’ll now show where he’s wrong.

Read the Heap article first. Without it you won’t quite understand what I’m talking about here.

Enjoy.

Heap talks about the importance of automaticity. And thats great. However he struggles to understand how that automaticity is created. Here is a quote

“There appears to be a consensus amongst academic psychologists who study hypnosis that any theory of hypnosis must account for the subjective experiences of involuntariness and realism that the suggestible subject finds so powerful.

One line of approach that is now popular is to consider that when responding to suggestion, the highly suggestible person is able to exclude from conscious awareness elements of the experience that would normally be available to consciousness. For example, when I raise my arm I am conscious of my arm lifting up and my intention to lift my arm. If however I am able to exclude from conscious representation my intention to lift my arm, it will seem to me that my arm is “lifting on its own”, i.e. involuntarily.

Similarly, if I am given the suggestion that my best friend is standing in front of me, I may make the effort to imagine him, to think of his voice, to imagine my feelings on seeing him, and so on. If I can remove from consciousness awareness the effort and intention that I make in creating this experience, then it will seem more like my friend is really there. To develop these ideas we can and indeed must – use models and theories from mainstream cognitive psychology and neuroscience.”

So Heaps solution to automaticity is the exclusion from awareness that I am choosing to do the act.

I find this absurd.

Classic conditioning has long ago proven that we can condition a reflex. And so if I hit your knee with a hammer a few times and at the same time I ring a bell, and then I only ring the bell, it will automatically and involuntarily twitch (Twitmyer, E. B. (1905). Knee jerks without simulation of the patellar tendon. Psychological Bulletin2, 43.)! In that case you don’t postulate that the person has decided to twitch the knee but has excluded that knowledge from awareness. Salter (1941) talks about using classical conditioning to condition pupil dilation. Would Heap argue that this is also voluntary but excluded from conscious awareness?!

And so once we have shown true automaticity, let me give you another example. One which Heap brings earlier in the paper.

The lemon test. If you imagine a lemon vividly enough you start to salivate.

I once again ask, is the secretion of saliva a voluntary act which you excluding from conscious awareness?!

Now of course you voluntarily imagined the lemon which then led to the saliva, but the saliva itself is involuntary. Salivating is something you can’t do it voluntarily and on command!

And so we have proven a key key point. And that is “If I imagine a context for which there is an appropriate response, that response will involuntarily be elicited”. And so you can’t vividly imagine the lemon without salivating. And therefore, so long as you imagine the lemon, the saliva is involuntary.

With that in mind, explaining an arm lift that happens without effort is rather simple. So long as you imagine a context in which that response is appropriate (helium balloons), the arm will respond with true automaticity.

Now lets take it further. Let’s say you imagine a context in which every response happens. Like the idea that the hypnotists is in full control. In that case, so long as you continued to imagine that, then responding to the hypnotist would be genuine, automatic, and involuntary. The only solution you would have would be to stop imagining that the hypnotist was in control.

And so here is the final step. Lets say you imagined that the hypnotist is in control, and you also imagined that you have no control over any of your imagining. In that case, there would be an automatic response of being unable to stop imagining this reality! And so you are genuinely and truly stuck! We have closed the door or stopping to imagine via imagination! We have closed the loop!

THAT is what hypnosis is. True honest automaticity.

Lets move on in Heaps words.

“Let me now describe three experiments and challenge you to think about the possible explanations in terms similar to those I have just described.

Hypnotically suggestible subjects when given the suggestion that they cannot see a chair in front of them may report convincingly that they cannot see anything. Yet when asked to walk across to the other side of the room they walk around the chair. People who are told that they must only ‘pretend to be hypnotised’ usually bump into the chair (Orne, 1962).

Secondly we suggest to some very suggestible subjects that they can no longer hear their own voices. In the case of those who respond to this suggestion we then ask them to speak into a microphone that is connected to an amplifier and a pair of headphones that the subject wears. The amplifier causes a delay of say half a second in the subject’s speech that he hears through the headphones. This is called ‘delayed auditory feedback’ and it is very difficult for people to speak coherently when at the same time they are hearing their voices delayed for a fraction of a second

What happens to those subjects who insist that they cannot hear their voice? With delayed auditory feedback their speech is disrupted as under normal conditions (Barber & Calverley, 1964)!

Finally, subjects learn a list of words and are then told that they cannot remember any of these words until a signal is given. Some very suggestible subjects may report complete or almost complete amnesia for the words. However they still show a characteristic electroencephalographic response when presented with words that appeared on the list Allen, Iacono, Laravuso, & Dunn, 1995; Schnyer & Allen, 1995) and this material still interferes with the subjects’ recall of another list of words that was not included in the amnesia suggestion (Coe, Basden, Basden & Graham, 1976).

Some people think that the results of these experiments indicate that these very suggestible subjects are simply pretending. With no other evidence this is the best explanation. However, the further evidence that has accumulated has led most researchers to reject this explanation, although it is still entirely possible that some subjects may be pretending.

What seems to be happening in each of these experiments is that very suggestible subjects have the ability to exclude from consciousness awareness the explicit representation of the stimulus – hearing their voice, seeing the chair, or recalling the list of words. However, these stimuli are still implicitly registered in their behaviour and thinking in the usual way – their speech is affected by delayed auditory feedback, they avoid bumping into the chair, and the ‘forgotten’ material still interferes with new learning. This is a plausible way of understanding what is happening.”

Powerful stuff!

But there is a solution…

Here it is.

In every example he gives a suggestion presupposes awareness that contradicts the suggestion itself. If you tell me not to see a specific chair, then at some level I need to be aware of the chair in order not to see it! If I wasn’t aware of the chair at all, then how would I know what not to see? It’s like most of my clients who want their problem gone. But so long as that is their goal, they presuppose having the problem for eternity! You can’t know something is gone unless it exists at a minimum as an idea.

The same is true in the other 2 examples. In order for the subjects mind to process the suggestion, it has to be aware of what it’s supposed to be unaware of. Hence the ‘hidden observer’. The suggestion itself builds in that hidden observer!!

Here is how to really test it. Suggest that a subject is completely blind. Then see what happens.

Salter (1941 “What is Hypnosis”) talks about suggesting deafness and then firing a gun next to the subjects ear. The subject didn’t flinch.

Now if I’m correct (as the lemon test proves without doubt), that means we simply need to imagine a context vividly and the resulting response will be a hypnotic one.

This depends on 2 things.
1. A subject with a good imagination.
2. A hypnotist who gives good suggestions. Most hypnotists say ‘your arm is stuck’. Thats a bad suggestion (unless the subject has responded to that type of suggestion already). In that suggestion you hope the subject imagines your command to be true and therefore you get the result.
A good suggestion is one where you tell the subject to imagine the context “Imagine I’m in control of your reality”, and then ‘closes the door’ via imagination “imagine you are unable to control your imaginings, even this one”.

The rest is simple. The more we are dissociated from external reality, the better we imagine. As in a sensory deprivation tank, as in REM sleep. In hypnosis the subject is dissociated from external reality and very strongly associated to the reality of the hypnotist creating reality. Hence the zombie look you often see. It’s dissociation from external reality (excluding the hypnotist and what he suggests). And so an as I proved in Part 1.

Your thoughts?

May 5, 2011   No Comments

Covert Text Hypnosis

Here is a beautiful example of a covert arm levitation via IM. The subject new he was being hypnotized, but did not know that I was making his arm lift. When I revealed that to him, he was blown away.

There’s a lot of therapeutic stuff here as well, so read it carefully and get what you can out of it.

Enjoy and Share,

Joe

[4:06:37 PM] craig galvin: u ever been hypnotised
[4:06:59 PM] Jake: In a sense, yes?
[4:07:03 PM] craig galvin: formally
[4:07:06 PM] craig galvin: with an induction
[4:07:10 PM] craig galvin: not just day to day stuff
[4:07:37 PM] Jake: Joe tried to zap me, but I “refused to let him speak to my unconscious” over skype.
[4:07:56 PM] craig galvin: i believe consciously they will expect something, BUT, the minute u fire their imagination and get something happening, it then responds at an unconscious level,.
[4:08:06 PM] craig galvin: why did u refuse
[4:08:34 PM] Jake: Because, I didn’t believe it would work and I kinda’ got a bit aggravated over the whole “unconscious stuff”.
[4:09:04 PM] craig galvin: so, ok
[4:09:10 PM] craig galvin: you didnt believe it would work
[4:09:12 PM] Jake: In my mind I was just like, “Zap me already”, stop with all the conscious/unconscious stuff”.
[4:09:16 PM] craig galvin: yet you are studying the field of hypnosis
[4:09:18 PM] craig galvin: correct
[4:09:34 PM] Jake: Correct.
[4:09:45 PM] Jake: I’m building my beliefs with what will work.
[4:09:47 PM] craig galvin: ok so does it matter, whether its face to face,
[4:09:51 PM] craig galvin: online
[4:09:52 PM] craig galvin: or in a shop
[4:10:12 PM] Jake: Not really, as long as I am receptive to his suggestion.
[4:10:18 PM] craig galvin: ok, so
[4:10:33 PM] craig galvin: you are studying it, and as long as u r receptive to his suggestion or anyones,
[4:10:36 PM] craig galvin: u would agree to do it
[4:10:39 PM] craig galvin: correct?
[4:10:46 PM] Jake: Probably.
[4:11:01 PM] Jake: I’m willing to believe that I’m cool when someone tells me that I am.
[4:11:04 PM] craig galvin: ok, so how about if the suggestion was just to let u experience what it feels like
[4:11:11 PM] craig galvin: because that benefits you how?
[4:11:15 PM] Jake: So, why not other things such as I feel relaxed when they suggest to me I am.
[4:11:39 PM] craig galvin: ok jake let me ask you one question
[4:11:46 PM] Jake: Shoot.
[4:11:51 PM] craig galvin: and its not meant to be personal or a dig in any way
[4:11:54 PM] craig galvin: ok let me clear that up first
[4:12:01 PM] Jake: No offense will be taken.
[4:12:04 PM] craig galvin: cool
[4:12:17 PM] craig galvin: you said
[4:12:27 PM] craig galvin: you are building a belief with what you believe will work
[4:12:28 PM] craig galvin: yes
[4:12:35 PM] Jake: Yes.
[4:12:38 PM] craig galvin: ok cool
[4:12:50 PM] craig galvin: so how do u know it may not work, if u r only just starting to study it?
[4:12:55 PM] craig galvin: isnt that a limiting belief,
[4:12:57 PM] craig galvin: ?
[4:13:16 PM] Jake: I suppose that is the path to understanding.
[4:13:26 PM] craig galvin: so if u were to limit urself
[4:13:26 PM] Jake: I ask questions because I am ignorant.
[4:13:37 PM] craig galvin: either knowingly or unknowingly
[4:13:45 PM] craig galvin: on some level
[4:13:52 PM] Jake: Mhmm.
[4:13:56 PM] craig galvin: would u want to open that door and see what is behind it?
[4:14:02 PM] craig galvin: to expand that knowledge?
[4:14:16 PM] Jake: I say that I do.
[4:14:26 PM] craig galvin: so you say that you do
[4:14:27 PM] craig galvin: ok
[4:14:29 PM] craig galvin: so what
[4:14:31 PM] craig galvin: if anything
[4:14:36 PM] craig galvin: if u were to imagine something that would say
[4:14:41 PM] craig galvin: YES this is what i need to do this
[4:14:49 PM] craig galvin: what would come to mind now?
[4:14:53 PM] craig galvin: anything
[4:15:10 PM] Jake: Do it, try it, repeat it.
[4:15:33 PM] Jake: If it doesn’t work, ask people who might know the cause of such.
[4:15:50 PM] Jake: Try it again, after trouble shooting.
[4:16:08 PM] Jake: Then develop it in a manner that might work.
[4:16:19 PM] Jake: Well, at least I would, if I knew how, of course
[4:16:22 PM] Jake: course*
[4:16:33 PM] craig galvin: ok cool
[4:16:37 PM] craig galvin: so do it
[4:16:38 PM] craig galvin: try it
[4:16:40 PM] craig galvin: repeat it
[4:16:44 PM] craig galvin: ask questions
[4:16:45 PM] craig galvin: trouble shoot
[4:16:49 PM] craig galvin: all makes for a good base
[4:17:07 PM] craig galvin: so in saying all that
[4:17:12 PM] craig galvin: what stops u from doing it on here?
[4:17:23 PM] Jake: I think, mainly, that hypnosis has just set me into a existential crisis.
[4:18:17 PM] Jake: I might have resisted because I want to be right and not to be proven wrong, in a sense.
[4:18:36 PM] craig galvin: ah ok,
[4:18:51 PM] craig galvin: so you want to not be proven wrong
[4:18:58 PM] craig galvin: and what would that wrong be like if it were to happen
[4:19:05 PM] craig galvin: how do u think that would feel
[4:19:18 PM] Jake: Defeated, yet enlightened.
[4:19:32 PM] Jake: Like a brand new beginning after a long journey.
[4:20:15 PM] craig galvin: i see because
[4:20:22 PM] Jake: Elrond: “Frodo bring the ring to Mordor, now.”
Frodo: “MORDOR!?! FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU-!!!!”
[4:20:22 PM] craig galvin: we all take journeys
[4:20:31 PM] craig galvin: ones which are long ones which are short
[4:20:52 PM] craig galvin: but if we choose to deny what we are being told and go on a base of knowledge which at the moment isnt correct or incorrect
[4:20:59 PM] craig galvin: just indifferent, we stay in the same place
[4:21:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: Jake
[4:21:07 PM] Jake: This is true.
[4:21:10 PM] Jake: Hey.
[4:21:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: Step into the defeated
[4:21:20 PM] Joe K Fobes: deep inside that sense
[4:21:20 PM] craig galvin: ah the master has returned
[4:21:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: lol
[4:21:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: I like that defeated
[4:21:34 PM] Jake: I want to.
[4:21:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: step into it
[4:21:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: be there now
[4:21:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: as if you had been proven utterly wrong
[4:21:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: imagine that this has happened
[4:21:59 PM] Jake: Mmmk.
[4:22:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: that you truly believed youre dead wrong
[4:22:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: proven
[4:22:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: no doubt
[4:22:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: how do you feel now
[4:22:23 PM] Jake: Horrible.
[4:22:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: awesome
[4:22:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: now go deeper into that horrible
[4:22:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: all the frickin way inside
[4:22:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: until
[4:22:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: it cant get any worse
[4:22:55 PM] Jake: May I cry?
[4:23:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: hell yes
[4:23:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: let go
[4:23:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: utterly
[4:23:08 PM] Jake: alright
[4:23:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: go all the way inside
[4:23:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: till you cant go any further
[4:23:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: and now shut up
[4:23:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: shut that voice up
[4:23:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: the inside one
[4:23:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: stop all the words
[4:23:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: and feel the feeling
[4:23:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: horrible
[4:23:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: nothing to protect you
[4:23:59 PM] Joe K Fobes: just you and the feeling
[4:24:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: and do nothing
[4:24:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: just experience it
[4:24:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: in every single cell of your body
[4:24:15 PM] Jake: i dont want to.
[4:24:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: do you trust me?
[4:24:33 PM] Jake: yes.
[4:24:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[4:24:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: I swear
[4:24:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: this will be good
[4:24:45 PM] Jake: alright.
[4:24:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: now go
[4:24:53 PM] Joe K Fobes: no barriers
[4:24:57 PM] Joe K Fobes: no stopping
[4:24:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: go inside
[4:25:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: all the way
[4:25:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: and so nothing in there
[4:25:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: just exist
[4:25:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: you and the feeling
[4:25:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: noting else
[4:25:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: no silly words to help you
[4:25:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: no running away
[4:25:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: and sit there
[4:25:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: and try to make it worse
[4:25:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: try to double it
[4:25:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: and can it get worse? or is it the worst possible?
[4:26:07 PM] Jake: it can get worse
[4:26:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[4:26:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: make it worse
[4:26:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: until its as bad as it can be
[4:26:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: because this is going to open you up
[4:26:33 PM] Joe K Fobes: now do it
[4:26:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: and say ‘worst’ when its there
[4:26:53 PM] Jake: worst
[4:26:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: perfect\
[4:27:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: and can it get any worse?
[4:27:04 PM] Jake: no
[4:27:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[4:27:10 PM] Joe K Fobes: and now sit there
[4:27:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: feeling this feeling
[4:27:19 PM] Joe K Fobes: the worst you can feel
[4:27:23 PM] Joe K Fobes: the thing you have dreaded
[4:27:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: all this time
[4:27:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: the fear you have had of this
[4:27:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: how you built it up in your mind
[4:27:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: and notice how its a sensation
[4:27:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: you still exist
[4:27:53 PM] Joe K Fobes: youre still alive
[4:28:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: this feeling isnt you
[4:28:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: you are you
[4:28:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: and this feeling is this feeling
[4:28:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: and as you realize that
[4:28:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: realize how easily
[4:28:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: it can drift away
[4:28:33 PM] Joe K Fobes: like a cloud on a windy day
[4:28:40 PM] Joe K Fobes: or butter melting in the hot sun
[4:28:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: the moment you notice the sensation
[4:28:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: of your hands
[4:29:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: the temperature of the air in the room
[4:29:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: this feeling
[4:29:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: begins to float away
[4:29:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: and youre still alive
[4:29:20 PM] Joe K Fobes: and how the worst
[4:29:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: is just a feeling
[4:29:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: that your body creates
[4:29:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: it feels real
[4:29:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: looks real
[4:29:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: sounds real
[4:29:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: and its a feeling
[4:29:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: and take that deep breath
[4:30:01 PM | Edited 4:30:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: and feel that wonderful body of yours
[4:30:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: get that shift
[4:30:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: inside
[4:30:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: deeply
[4:30:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: and what are you feeling now
[4:30:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: as that feeling finally washes away
[4:30:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: washing out of you
[4:30:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: totally and completely
[4:31:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: you have met the worst
[4:31:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: and youre still here
[4:31:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: and how are you feeling at this moment
[4:31:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: ?
[4:31:32 PM] Jake: Relieved, glad, and calm.
[4:31:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: indeed
[4:31:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: now
[4:31:38 PM] Jake: Hopeful.
[4:31:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: think about being proven wrong
[4:31:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: and how does that feel?
[4:32:14 PM] Jake: Not bad.
[4:32:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: not bad
[4:32:26 PM] Jake: Just another feeling.
[4:32:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: does it bother you at all?
[4:32:48 PM] Jake: No, not at this moment.
[4:33:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: not at this moment
[4:33:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: interesting
[4:33:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: you know
[4:33:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: isnt it weird
[4:33:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: how we feel all this fear
[4:33:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: of stuff
[4:33:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then
[4:33:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: it happens
[4:33:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: we do it
[4:33:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: and its like
[4:33:43 PM] Joe K Fobes: ‘that wasnt that bad after all…’
[4:33:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: ever had that type of experience?
[4:33:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: I had it once
[4:33:56 PM] Jake: Yes.
[4:34:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: jumping off a cliff into a river…
[4:34:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: and where did you have it?
[4:36:25 PM] Jake: When I was in middle school, I was mean. A horrible bully because I didn’t want to open up to people. I didn’t really care if they liked me or not or if I was wrong or right.

But, this girl was in trouble with a couple other bullies. She was crying, so I thought about what I’ve been doing.
[4:36:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm
[4:36:46 PM] Jake: If any of it was really worth it.
[4:36:54 PM] Jake: Not opening up to people, not caring.
[4:37:06 PM] Jake: It was so easy, not to do something.
[4:37:37 PM] Jake: I wanted to be more, but I was stuck in this stasis of meanness.
[4:37:55 PM] Jake: My shell made of fear.
[4:38:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm
[4:38:06 PM] Jake: I don’t know, I decided to help her.
[4:38:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then what happened
[4:38:30 PM] Jake: I guess because I knew I couldn’t keep this barrier up all the time.
[4:38:44 PM] Jake: Eventually I would have to answer to my evils.
[4:38:53 PM] Jake: So I broke it down, I decided to help.
[4:39:01 PM] Jake: Because she needed help.
[4:39:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then what happened
[4:39:49 PM] Jake: She knew me as someone who was horrible.
[4:40:16 PM] Jake: So she didn’t thank me, but just nodded and walked away.
[4:40:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm
[4:40:37 PM] Jake: I felt crushed. I finally did something good, but no thanks was given.
[4:40:48 PM] Jake: And that night I didn’t go to bed.
[4:41:11 PM] Jake: I could only think, “What was the point if I wasn’t going to get thanked?”
[4:41:44 PM] Jake: And I thought about it all that week.
[4:41:57 PM] Jake: And I realized, I didn’t really like being mean.
[4:42:01 PM] Jake: I just liked hiding.
[4:42:13 PM] Jake: So I decided, I don’t have to be mean.
[4:42:21 PM] Jake: I can be good and still hide.
[4:42:52 PM] Jake: So, I started being more passive, yet more responsive to other peoples needs.
[4:44:21 PM | Edited 4:44:36 PM] Jake: “I don’t need people’s thanks for being good.”
[4:44:55 PM] Jake: And I sure as hell didn’t want to be mean anymore.
[4:45:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm\
[4:45:05 PM] Jake: It was hard though.
[4:45:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: and so when was that moment
[4:45:15 PM] Jake: You construct a image for so long.
[4:45:19 PM] Joe K Fobes: when it all clicked
[4:45:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you couldnt go back to the old way
[4:45:31 PM] Jake: Making that wall so tough — like steel.
[4:45:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: no matter how hard you could try
[4:45:46 PM] Jake: But, I tore it down.
[4:45:50 PM] Jake: Bit, by bit.
[4:46:02 PM] Jake: And now, it is like a junkyard.
[4:46:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: and its interesting
[4:46:22 PM] Jake: Desolate, with no life.
[4:46:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: junkyards are places
[4:46:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: desolate
[4:46:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: no life
[4:46:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: the soil rich with nutrients
[4:46:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: a perfect place
[4:46:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: to grow something new
[4:46:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: beautiful
[4:46:59 PM] Joe K Fobes: peaceful
[4:47:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: a place to learn
[4:47:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: and be
[4:47:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: where youre safe
[4:47:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: where you can be you
[4:47:13 PM] Jake: It’s a place to reflect.
[4:47:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: and reflect
[4:47:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and allow your unconscious
[4:47:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: youre neural network
[4:47:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: to process
[4:47:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: all that
[4:47:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: under the surface
[4:47:36 PM] Jake: Mmmhmm.
[4:47:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: and come to that peace
[4:47:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: deeply inside now
[4:47:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: and as those old memories
[4:47:53 PM] Joe K Fobes: emotions
[4:47:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: feelings
[4:47:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: pass by
[4:48:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: in a single file
[4:48:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: like so many willing servants
[4:48:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: and each one
[4:48:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: carries
[4:48:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: a lesson
[4:48:23 PM] Joe K Fobes: and as you learn the lesson
[4:48:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: from each servant
[4:48:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: his mission is done
[4:48:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: and he goes to a place of peace
[4:48:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: waiting for you to call on his strength
[4:48:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: for what you want
[4:48:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: and each of them
[4:48:59 PM] Joe K Fobes: teaching you
[4:49:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: in this lovely
[4:49:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: peaceful way
[4:49:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: every single
[4:49:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: memory
[4:49:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: emotion
[4:49:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: feeling
[4:49:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: thought
[4:49:19 PM] Joe K Fobes: teaching
[4:49:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and moving on
[4:49:23 PM] Joe K Fobes: passing on
[4:49:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: deep things
[4:49:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: as you feel lighter
[4:49:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: lighter
[4:49:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: arming yourself
[4:49:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: with power
[4:49:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: a peaceful arming
[4:49:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: of lifting power
[4:49:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: which you knows
[4:50:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: will help you lift yourself
[4:50:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: almost without realizing
[4:50:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: just when the right
[4:50:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: arming yourself
[4:50:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: with the sense of lifting
[4:50:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: inside and out
[4:50:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: upwards
[4:50:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: and upwards
[4:50:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: waaay up in the air
[4:50:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: rising and lifting
[4:50:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: to that place
[4:51:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: where peace knows
[4:51:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: almost like a magnet
[4:51:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: tugging and pulling
[4:51:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: right upwards
[4:51:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: now
[4:51:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and allow your unconscious
[4:51:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: to process what it needs to process
[4:51:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: and do what it needs to do
[4:51:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: and when you notice whats happening
[4:51:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: simply watch
[4:51:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: in amazement
[4:51:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: as that happens now
[4:51:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: and feel wonderful
[4:51:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: until it has learned its lesson to you
[4:52:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you drop down inside
[4:52:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: to that place of peace
[4:52:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: and when that happens you can come back
[4:52:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: by typing the word
[4:52:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: ‘peace’
[4:52:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: taking all the time you need
[4:52:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: inside
[4:54:02 PM] Jake: peace.
[4:54:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: welcome back
[4:54:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: and describe what was the most interesting about that 🙂
[4:54:30 PM] Jake: My arms, started floating.
[4:54:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: no way
[4:54:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: by themselves?!
[4:54:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: Oh lord
[4:54:54 PM] craig galvin: lol
[4:54:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: I must have mistakenly hypnotized you
[4:55:02 PM] craig galvin: ooops
[4:55:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: but but but
[4:55:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: you cant be hypnotized!
[4:55:11 PM] Jake: Yes, when you said, “as you feel lighter

lighter

arming yourself

with power

a peaceful arming

of lifting power

which you knows

will help you lift yourself

almost without realizing

just when the right

arming yourself

with the sense of lifting

inside and out

upwards

and upwards

waaay up in the air

rising and lifting

to that place

where peace knows

almost like a magnet

tugging and pulling

right upwards”
[4:55:23 PM] Jake: They started moving upwards.
[4:55:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: so interesting
[4:55:34 PM] Jake: And I felt very very very calm, peaceful, good.
[4:55:40 PM] Joe K Fobes: and did you know
[4:55:44 PM] Jake: I didn’t want it to stop so I just let them rise.
[4:55:59 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you didnt want that moment of being wrong to stop
[4:56:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: and it was peace
[4:56:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: calm
[4:56:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[4:56:15 PM] Jake: Yes!
[4:56:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: and one can enjoy
[4:56:19 PM] Joe K Fobes: being wrong
[4:56:20 PM] Jake: That’s exactly it.
[4:56:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: interesting
[4:56:32 PM] craig galvin: funny that, i wonder if u noticed the work that set u up for that jake lol
[4:56:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: I wonder what all this means
[4:56:37 PM] Jake: It was fluffy, sweet, and slightly tangy.
[4:56:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: I never knew horrible could be that wonderful 🙂
[4:57:19 PM] Jake: Frothing in a effable bed of wisdom.
[4:57:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: So what does this all mean?
[4:57:51 PM] Jake: I don’t have to be afraid of being wrong.
[4:57:59 PM] Jake: It can be wonderful.
[4:58:17 PM] Jake: I don’t have to clench onto things like that anymore.
[4:58:20 PM] Joe K Fobes: wow
[4:58:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: and what does that mean?
[4:59:08 PM] Jake: I can learn as much as I want without holding onto unnecessary feelings.
[4:59:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: wow
[4:59:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: and that
[4:59:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: you can learn as much as you want
[4:59:30 PM] Jake: Because, I can feel these wonderful things.
[4:59:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: without holding onto unnecessary feelings
[4:59:38 PM] Jake: Me, myself, I.
[4:59:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you can feel these wonderful feelings
[4:59:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: what does that mean?
[5:00:01 PM] Jake: I have the wish to do it, I can.
[5:00:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: wow
[5:00:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: and do you want to go a bit further here Jake?
[5:00:36 PM] Jake: Yes, please.
[5:00:59 PM] Joe K Fobes: so if you have the wish to do it you can
[5:01:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: what
[5:01:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: does that mean…
[5:02:41 PM] Jake: I am independent, I don’t have to wait for someone to make me feel good.
[5:03:40 PM] Joe K Fobes: wow
[5:03:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: and one last one
[5:03:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: and go all the way this time
[5:04:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: really really get ready to see the ultimate truth now
[5:04:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: and are you ready?
[5:04:14 PM] Jake: Yes.
[5:04:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: ok
[5:04:43 PM] Joe K Fobes: so really now
[5:04:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: taking all these deep truths
[5:04:53 PM] Joe K Fobes: go all the way up
[5:04:57 PM] Joe K Fobes: looking down
[5:05:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: and see the ultimate truth
[5:05:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: about you
[5:05:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: and what is that truth you see now
[5:05:50 PM] Jake: I am not always going to be right, but that is okay because I enjoy learning new things. These new things can help others.
[5:06:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: keep going
[5:06:14 PM] Jake: As I learn, I will do, and as I do I will teach, and as I teach I will learn.
[5:06:20 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[5:06:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: and now
[5:06:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: look in your life
[5:06:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: and find 2 other examples
[5:06:35 PM] Joe K Fobes: of where this is true
[5:06:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: where you can be comfortable
[5:06:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: being wrong
[5:06:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: being independent
[5:07:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: no fear
[5:07:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: and being ok with fear 🙂
[5:07:48 PM] Jake: Mmm.
[5:07:59 PM] Jake: It’s warm.
[5:08:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and have you found those 2 other clear examples
[5:08:31 PM] Jake: Yes.
[5:08:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: perfect
[5:08:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: and notice
[5:09:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: how they are different
[5:09:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: with these new knowing
[5:09:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: these new truths
[5:09:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: that are true for you
[5:09:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: and let that
[5:09:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: those changes filter into every single aspect in your life
[5:09:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: and when its done
[5:09:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: and the constant state of learning is deeply installed
[5:09:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: that curiosity
[5:09:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: wonder
[5:09:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: love and peace
[5:09:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: simply type DONE
[5:10:11 PM] Jake: DONE
[5:10:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: perfect
[5:10:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: 🙂
[5:10:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: and there you have it
[5:10:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: life transformation
[5:10:52 PM] Joe K Fobes: arm lev
[5:10:56 PM] Jake: It is amazing.
[5:10:59 PM] craig galvin: lol
[5:11:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: indeed it is
[5:11:05 PM] craig galvin: rule 1 jake
[5:11:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: the arm lev was fun
[5:11:13 PM] craig galvin: never tell me or joe u cant be hypnotised online lol
[5:11:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: the covert part
[5:11:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: did you realize Jake, what I was doing before it lifted?
[5:11:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: or did it lift before you knew why?
[5:12:09 PM] Jake: I knew that I felt light inside.
[5:12:11 PM] craig galvin: very ericksonian in its thinking there joe
[5:12:20 PM] Jake: Then my whole body was being light.
[5:12:57 PM] Jake: So it was just like… “I’m floating up and feeling good about it, okay?”
[5:13:01 PM] craig galvin: Jake, keep a copy of this conversation,
[5:13:04 PM] craig galvin: read it
[5:13:10 PM] craig galvin: study it, see what we did there,
[5:13:23 PM] Jake: And I just thought, “Okay, I like it.”
[5:13:23 PM] craig galvin: even if Joe did hijack the trance lol
[5:13:33 PM] Jake: ^^
[5:13:55 PM] craig galvin: Joe saw the opening and went for it lol
[5:14:12 PM] Jake: I am most glad that he did.
[5:14:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: lol
[5:14:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: there were specific suggestions
[5:14:57 PM] Joe K Fobes: for the arm to lift to your nose
[5:15:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: your right arm specifically 🙂
[5:15:20 PM] Jake: My right arm?!
[5:15:26 PM] Jake: That is the one that rose first!
[5:15:27 PM] craig galvin: just a bit, i was laughing as u typed it
[5:15:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[5:16:04 PM] Jake: Was the word “Arming yourself” what did it?
[5:17:08 PM] Jake: “almost without realizing

just when the right

arming yourself

with the sense of lifting”
[5:17:09 PM] Joe K Fobes: as you feel lighter
[4:49:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: lighter
arm here—–>[4:49:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: arming yourself
[4:49:45 PM] Joe K Fobes: with power
arm again—->[4:49:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: a peaceful arming
[4:49:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: of lifting power
knows=nose—–>[4:49:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: which you knows
[4:50:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: will help you lift yourself
[4:50:08 PM] Joe K Fobes: almost without realizing
right—–>[4:50:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: just when the right
arm—->[4:50:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: arming yourself
[4:50:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: with the sense of lifting
[4:50:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: inside and out
[4:50:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: upwards
[4:50:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: and upwards
[4:50:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: waaay up in the air
[4:50:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: rising and lifting
[4:50:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: to that place
nose—->[4:51:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: where peace knows
[4:51:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: almost like a magnet
[4:51:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: tugging and pulling
right—->[4:51:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: right upwards
[4:51:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: now
[4:51:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and allow your unconscious
[4:51:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: to process what it needs to process
[4:51:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: and do what it needs to do
[4:51:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: and when you notice whats happening
[4:51:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: simply watch
[4:51:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: in amazement
[4:51:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: as that happens now
[4:51:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: and feel wonderful
[4:51:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: until it has learned its lesson to you
[4:52:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you drop down inside
[4:52:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: to that place of peace
[5:17:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: 🙂
[5:17:37 PM] craig galvin: right arming, right upwards, magnet, etc
[5:17:41 PM] Jake: That is incredible!
[5:17:42 PM] craig galvin: all combined very nicely
[5:17:57 PM] craig galvin: read it carefully, its all layered lol
[5:18:03 PM] Jake: I had only thought of the concepts of magnet, floating.
[5:18:14 PM] Jake: But not the “Right” and “arming” things.
[5:18:19 PM] Jake: That is amazing.
[5:18:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: magnet was way later 🙂
[5:18:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: thats your unconscious mind
[5:18:33 PM] Joe K Fobes: it KNEW
[5:18:33 PM] Jake: Wonderful.
[5:18:41 PM] Jake: I did know.
[5:18:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: exactly what the right thing was to do
[5:18:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: it knows
[5:18:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: it really knows
[5:19:02 PM] Jake: It was rising on its own!
[5:19:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm
[5:19:12 PM] Jake: No one was helping, not you, not me.
[5:19:14 PM] Jake: It was.
[5:19:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: without you ever consciously knowing what was going on
[5:19:25 PM] craig galvin: lol
[5:19:27 PM] craig galvin: hey joe
[5:19:29 PM] craig galvin: I think we got him
[5:19:31 PM] craig galvin: lol
[5:19:33 PM] Joe K Fobes: lol
[5:20:25 PM] craig galvin: this is why i love this occupation / hobby always learning, always enjoying and seeing things like this, is a really beautiful thing
[5:21:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: indeed
[5:21:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: in the hands of a master
[5:21:26 PM] Jake: Absolutely amazing.
[5:21:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: its art
[5:21:45 PM] Jake: Man, I’m showing this conversation to my whole family.
[5:21:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: 🙂
[5:21:50 PM] Jake: And to my friends.
[5:21:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: send them all on the upcoming course
[5:22:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: learn to do this stuff 🙂
[5:22:18 PM] Jake: I am amazed.
[5:22:23 PM] Jake: I am enlightened.
[5:22:27 PM] Joe K Fobes: 🙂
[5:22:31 PM] craig galvin: good good, we aim to please
[5:22:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: I think he’s had the wtf moment 🙂
[5:22:38 PM] craig galvin: joe is a true master
[5:22:41 PM] Jake: There is no words to describe this wonderful things.
[5:22:44 PM] craig galvin: erm i think so mate
[5:22:55 PM] craig galvin: i dont think his life will ever be the same lol
[5:23:05 PM] craig galvin: and the best part, is it will continue to grow lol

May 3, 2011   1 Comment

Hypnotizing the Conscious

Here’s the standard line from the standard hypnotist “I can’t make you stop smoking, you need to want to stop”.

Let’s examine that now.

We as hypnotists work with the subconscious of our clients. Thats how we can get all the splendid hypnotic effects such as amnesia, hallucination, and ideomotor movement. We simply have the subconscious accept our suggestion for name amnesia, and presto like magic, they can’t remember their name no matter how hard they try and no matter how hard they want to.

Can someones SC work against their wishes? Of course it can! Look at any phobic, they didn’t ever want to become a phobic, they got hypnotized into it without their consent and without their willingness, and there doesn’t seem to be anything they can do to stop it.

We find that phenomena of people being unable to consciously fight the SC on many levels. We find it with emotion, thoughts, habits, and beliefs.

So if we as hypnotists work with out clients SC minds, so long as they follow our instructions during the session, why oh why would they have to consciously want to quit?

So here’s the thing. As good as we are as hypnotists, we aren’t perfect. So while we might change beliefs, habits, patterns, and emotions, for all we know there might be some pieces of the puzzle that we haven’t gotten to. Those remaining associations and learning can reinstall the old smoking issue.

Along with that, even if we did zap the smoking issue completely and remove all traces from the SC, the conscious mind of a person is their own hypnotist! Not always is it the most effective hypnotist (as we see in the case of a phobia), but it’s a hypnotist nonetheless. And so it’s possible that even after we have changed the SC so the problem is no longer there, they might rehypnotize themselves right back into the habit.

Recognizing that, we enlist the aid of their SC so that they don’t fight us and rehypnotize themselves, and so if we missed something, they will hypnotize themselves and finish the work.

And so to summarize, I think that we most certainly do not need the person to want to quit. So long as they come to us and follow instructions during the session, we can change the SC to the point that they can’t smoke no matter how much they want to. We can also change the SC to the point that smoking means nothing to them and holds no attraction for them.

However we do recognize that the way they think consciously has a powerful hypnotic effect on their SC. And so to make sure that the job gets done even when we haven’t done a perfect job, we enlist the help of their 24/7 hypnotist, and that is their conscious mind, to fill in what we missed. We also want to make sure that they don’t fight what we put in there and reinstall the habit.

This concept applies to almost any change we make. If we enlist the on-board hypnotist (the conscious) and teach him how to use his power well, we can have our clients finish the job that we started when what we did wasn’t quite enough.

So it’s a lie that the client needs to want to quit, but one that seems to work in the best interests of all involved.

Because of the demographic I often work with in my private practice (male, 18-30, Lawyers, Engineers, and Scientists) I get a lot of clients with very active conscious minds. And so I have had to develop a whole range of techniques and ideas to work with them and ‘hypnotize’ the conscious. In my upcoming online group hypnosis supervision you will have a chance to learn my methods and practice them with live feedback in class.

You can find more information and sign up here.

March 30, 2011   No Comments

Text Therapy

Here is a small and quick piece of changework that I did with a young hypnotist who had worked with a friend and made some mistakes. He was in a pretty bad state, and I helped him move through it and learn something as well.

Now this obviously was rather easy as it was only a simple state change, and you can take the ideas used and apply them to more complex cases.

None of this was planned, it was all ‘in the moment’. If you want to learn hypnosis and therapy and train your mind to be able to create powerful therapeutic approaches ‘in the moment’ you can go sign up for the online supervision group.

Enjoy!

[2:46:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: I talk to the SC all the time…
[2:47:04 PM] Joe K Fobes: its called ideomotor signaling
[2:47:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: have you ever had a finger twich by itself?
[2:47:49 PM] Steven: Hmm not really
[2:48:00 PM] Steven: I’ve had my eyelids twitching by themselves tho
[2:48:10 PM] Joe K Fobes: so every part of your body is always perfectly still?
[2:48:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: do this
[2:48:23 PM] Joe K Fobes: put your wrist on the table
[2:48:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: and float your fingers
[2:48:27 PM] Steven: k
[2:48:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: float
[2:48:40 PM] Joe K Fobes: now watch those fingers
[2:48:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: and twitch one of them
[2:48:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: a few times
[2:49:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then stop twitching it
[2:49:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: and watch it
[2:49:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: and let me know when it does a little twitch by itself
[2:49:27 PM] Steven: ohh
[2:49:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[2:49:31 PM] Steven: woah
[2:49:33 PM] Steven: why?
[2:49:36 PM] Joe K Fobes: so thats the yes finger
[2:49:38 PM] Steven: that’s so strange?
[2:49:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: now, go and make a no finger
[2:49:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: so twitch the no finger
[2:49:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: a few times
[2:49:55 PM] Steven: can it be on the other hand?
[2:50:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then let it do it itself
[2:50:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: well I want you to be able to type
[2:50:10 PM] Steven: kk
[2:50:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: so pick a hand
[2:50:14 PM] Joe K Fobes: do the yes finger
[2:50:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: and then the no one
[2:50:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: and tell when you have that
[2:51:19 PM] Steven: hmm the other finger is not reacting
[2:51:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: ok
[2:51:28 PM] Steven: only the yes finger seems to be twitching when I concentrate on it
[2:51:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: so look at the yes finger
[2:51:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: and Im going to ask your SC something
[2:51:43 PM] Joe K Fobes: and that finger will respond
[2:51:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: is that ok with you?
[2:51:50 PM] Steven: yes
[2:51:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[2:52:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: so SC of Steven, does Steven have parents?
[2:52:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: and watch the finger respond
[2:52:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: and tell me its response
[2:52:33 PM] Steven: yes finger moved
[2:52:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[2:52:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: and SC mind, does Steven have siblings?
[2:53:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: and once again tell me its response
[2:53:21 PM] Steven: yes finger moved
[2:53:23 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[2:53:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: no we will install the no finger
[2:53:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: ready?
[2:53:32 PM] Steven: ok
[2:53:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: watch the hand in response to this question
[2:53:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: and notice which other finger goes
[2:54:00 PM] Steven: ok
[2:54:22 PM] Joe K Fobes: SC mind, has Steven ever raped a woman?
[2:54:54 PM] Steven: hmm
[2:55:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: what do you get
[2:55:03 PM] Steven: my hand has no response
[2:55:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: ok
[2:55:07 PM] Steven: but I can feel a tingle
[2:55:09 PM] Steven: in my pinky
[2:55:11 PM] Joe K Fobes: watch it and I’ll ask again
[2:55:15 PM] Joe K Fobes: and this time it will answer
[2:55:18 PM] Joe K Fobes: fully
[2:55:19 PM] Steven: ok
[2:55:29 PM] Joe K Fobes: SC mind, has Steven ever killed a human being?
[2:56:23 PM] Steven: hmm
[2:56:30 PM] Steven: my index finger is my yes finger
[2:56:33 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[2:56:38 PM] Steven: and I can see my pinky and ring finger shaking
[2:56:42 PM] Joe K Fobes: perfect
[2:56:45 PM] Steven: but not as big of a twitch as the yes finger
[2:56:49 PM] Joe K Fobes: so now onto the good stuff
[2:56:56 PM] Joe K Fobes: it gets stronger as we move on
[2:56:59 PM] Steven: ok
[2:57:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: so SC mind, your job is to give Steven the best life possible, is that true?
[2:57:43 PM] Steven: yes
[2:59:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: and SC mind he had an event with this girl which you feel is important, yes?
[3:00:12 PM] Steven: yes but its a smaller twitch
[3:00:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: perfect
[3:00:50 PM] Joe K Fobes: and SC mind, you have the ability to create any though or emotion, or memory or imagination in his mind, isn’t that so?
[3:01:23 PM] Steven: overwhelming yes
[3:01:25 PM] Steven: omg
[3:01:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[3:01:40 PM] Steven: i felt a pulse from my head move down to the yes finger
[3:02:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: and so SC mind, would it be ok for you to have him experience being a brilliant and experienced hypnosis expert (pick your favorite) and as he experiences that, have him get a really clear perspective on what happened?
[3:03:52 PM] Steven: hmmm..
[3:04:04 PM] Steven: it stays relatively still
[3:04:16 PM] Steven: but whenever I dont focus on my hand
[3:04:17 PM] Joe K Fobes: thats fine
[3:04:32 PM] Steven: it like my pinky is tugging slightly
[3:04:38 PM] Joe K Fobes: thats fine
[3:04:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: SC mind, youre here to help Steven, yes?
[3:05:01 PM] Steven: yes
[3:05:10 PM] Joe K Fobes: and you can create anything in his mind, yes?
[3:05:20 PM] Steven: yes
[3:05:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: does it make sense to you, that perhaps experiencing this from the perspective of an experienced hypnotist, that he will learn important new things?
[3:06:24 PM] Steven: yes
[3:06:38 PM] Steven: but my pinky felt weird
[3:07:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: and so since you can create anything in his mind, and youre here to help him, and it does make sense on some level, would it be ok for you to create that experience for him?
[3:07:19 PM] Steven: yes
[3:07:39 PM] Joe K Fobes: ok
[3:08:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: so SC mind, please go ahead and do that now. Close his eyes, and have him experience that, and when he has learned what he needs to learn, open his eyes and have him report back. You can take as long as full minute or even as short as 10 seconds to do that now.
[3:10:00 PM] Steven: wow
[3:10:12 PM] Steven: that was… rather enlightening
[3:10:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: indeed
[3:10:23 PM] Steven: I’m usually on the other end of the hypnosis
[3:10:26 PM] Joe K Fobes: tell me about the parts that youre aware of consciously right now?
[3:10:29 PM] Steven: so its weird experiencing it
[3:10:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[3:10:32 PM] Steven: especially when I closed my eyes
[3:10:33 PM] Steven: and It felt like
[3:10:36 PM] Steven: I dno
[3:10:42 PM] Steven: I was looking at myself hypnotizing the girl
[3:10:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:10:49 PM] Steven: like it was like watchin it from up above
[3:10:51 PM] Steven: weird feeling
[3:10:53 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:11:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: and what did you notice consciously that you learned about that
[3:11:20 PM] Steven: I noticed that I shouldn’t have dealt with her family issues
[3:11:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:11:33 PM] Steven: she said that she was whispering because her father was yelling at her
[3:11:37 PM] Steven: and I only focused on her
[3:11:37 PM] Joe K Fobes: mhmm
[3:11:43 PM] Steven: the fact that it had to do with her father
[3:11:51 PM] Steven: went completely through me
[3:11:54 PM] Steven: during the hypnosis
[3:11:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[3:12:01 PM] Joe K Fobes: quite a powerful insight
[3:12:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: what else did you learn
[3:12:07 PM] Steven: as part of metaphorically frame the issue
[3:12:17 PM] Steven: I made her visualize the trauma she was experiencing
[3:12:25 PM] Steven: in terms of images that couldnt touch her
[3:12:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:12:34 PM] Steven: kind of like ghosts
[3:12:51 PM] Steven: that was … sorry for my language, but fucking stupid
[3:13:00 PM] Joe K Fobes: lol
[3:13:11 PM] Steven: it was so obvious that she was dealing with her trauma in a suppressive way
[3:13:15 PM] Steven: it was obvious it happened the day before
[3:13:28 PM] Joe K Fobes: good
[3:13:32 PM] Joe K Fobes: so now do this
[3:13:35 PM] Steven: yet I still forced her to imagine it
[3:13:41 PM] Joe K Fobes: float right above that Steven
[3:13:46 PM] Joe K Fobes: doing those things
[3:13:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: and realize how being the person he is
[3:14:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: he isnt quite aware
[3:14:12 PM] Joe K Fobes: that he needs to be aware of this stuff
[3:14:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: are you noticing that?
[3:14:40 PM] Steven: I felt my vision blur for a moment just now
[3:14:43 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:14:44 PM] Steven: and my head is a bit heavy
[3:14:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:15:06 PM] Joe K Fobes: and as you notice that younger you, doing what he’s doing
[3:15:10 PM] Joe K Fobes: based on what he knows
[3:15:16 PM] Joe K Fobes: and who he is
[3:15:24 PM] Joe K Fobes: making decisions that to him seem to be wise
[3:15:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: you learn what you need to learn from that
[3:15:43 PM] Joe K Fobes: in a healthy and integrated fashion
[3:15:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: and as you learn that
[3:15:51 PM] Joe K Fobes: the emotion fades
[3:15:54 PM] Joe K Fobes: fades away
[3:16:03 PM] Joe K Fobes: as you have learned what you need to learn
[3:16:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: its a part of you now
[3:16:13 PM] Joe K Fobes: and your SC can now release that emotion
[3:16:21 PM] Joe K Fobes: and when its done doing that
[3:16:30 PM] Joe K Fobes: you can come fully back to the present fully awake
[3:16:47 PM] Joe K Fobes: feeling that relief wash through your mind and body now
[3:16:55 PM] Joe K Fobes: releasing that emotion
[3:17:05 PM] Joe K Fobes: and becoming fully free
[3:17:14 PM] Steven: phew im back
[3:17:23 PM] Steven: wow
[3:17:25 PM] Joe K Fobes: welcome back
[3:17:31 PM] Joe K Fobes: you feel good, dont you
[3:17:31 PM] Steven: my mind feels … like clear
[3:17:34 PM] Joe K Fobes: yes
[3:17:34 PM] Steven: yah
[3:17:36 PM] Steven: like awake
[3:17:42 PM] Steven: I dno, I remember what happened during the trance
[3:17:44 PM] Joe K Fobes: it was good that you experienced that
[3:17:48 PM] Steven: but like
[3:17:48 PM] Joe K Fobes: learned your lesson
[3:17:58 PM] Joe K Fobes: and are now free to move on
[3:17:59 PM] Steven: it felt like .. ages
[3:18:02 PM] Joe K Fobes: yeps
[3:18:07 PM] Joe K Fobes: time distortion is one of the things
[3:18:26 PM] Steven: wow
[3:18:28 PM] Steven: thanks a lot Joe

If you want to get a taste of how to easily do work like that, go sign up for the online supervision group now!

March 29, 2011   No Comments

Learn Hypnosis and Therapy

So you’ve been reading and learning about hypnosis and therapy for a while but you have semiaritits. That’s when you have learned a massive amount, keep going to seminars, but you can’t seem to go out and actully start working with people.

But, you well know that the only way to really learn hypnosis and therapy is to work with live clients. Theory is nice and good, and live work is a whole different thing!

So what do you do? It’s kind of hard to start experimenting on people when you don’t have the experience… but getting experience is hard to get without working with people! So how do you learn hypnosis and therapy when you’re in this situation?

Traditional therapists have a middle road. They intern by some other experienced therapist, they get supervised, and so get the experience.

But what is a hypnotist to do?!

And so I’m excited to announce that I’ll be doing a 10 week, online, therapy/hypnosis supervision!

Approximately once a week we will have a group conference call in which someone will play client (with a real problem they have, a problem a client has, or a theoretical issue), and someone else will play therapist. As the session goes on there will be live feedback from myself and the rest of the group on what to do next and how to proceed.

You will learn my powerful “what do you want” framework.

You will learn “pancaking”.

You will learn how to use ABTC.

You will learn how to use provocation.

You will learn how to create powerful change conversationally.

You will learn to use my very powerful approach. It’s logical, rational, and airtight.

You will learn how to respond with flexibility, power, and grace without needing to plan out your sessions in advance.

You will learn how to create your very own techniques that will work best for you and your clients.

I have spent a long time studying the ingredients for long term powerful change, and the time has come to start teaching them.

“My main aim with hypnosis has always been to use it as a tool to help people get over their personal problems. When I first got in touch with Joe, I had been in the hypnosis game for no more than a few months. Up until that point I had consumed pretty much every hypnosis material I could get my hands on. However, no matter how many books I read or how many videos I watched, I felt my learning curve was rapidly approaching its peak. Already after my first talk with Joe I realized I had stumbled upon one of the most intellectual people in the hypnosis and therapy field, and that is a belief that has stayed with me ever since. Joe is incredibly gifted when it comes to finding solutions to whatever problems you present him. And not only that, he also has the essential and rare ability to teach his skills to others. Nevertheless Joe is one of the most sympathetic people I know and a great friend. Now, I don’t think I have to mention what happened to that learning curve…”

-Tobias Norrbom

If you’re already doing hypnosis and therapy and looking for the secrets to long term change, this supervision will be very valuable. We have all had those clients who seem to be “impossible”. You sometimes feel that you’re working too hard to make them change. It’s time to learn how to get the client to do all the hard work while you sit back and watch!

The tuition will be under $1000 USD.

The supervision group will be very small and space is very limited. It’s going to be on a first come first served.

Want to know more?

Simply sign up here, and I’ll let you know more as soon as I iron out the details.

—–UPDATE—–

The first meeting will be Tuesday April 5th at 12PM EST. The second meeting will be April 12th at 12PM EST. After that we will schedule based on the needs of the group members.

Tuition will be $300 for the full 10 weeks. This price includes a free copy of my DVD ‘Hypnosis in therapy’.

You can sign up here.

 

March 22, 2011   No Comments

Free Conference Call #2

I had some awesome feedback on the first call about the automatic reaction model. People have been telling me how it has made learning hypnosis much clearer, and has allowed them to put everything they have learned over the years into a nice and tidy box.

And so I think it’s time to confuse ya’ll once again.

I’ll be presenting my “Reality Is A Scam” model in a free webinar March 24th at 3PM EST.

It’s the second full functional hypnosis model (the automatic reaction model being the first).

The implications of this hypnosis model are massive.

It will lift the veil and give you a simple and clear view of what you’re actually doing when you hypnotize a subject.

It will utterly change the way you work and how you learn hypnosis.

I won’t be using skype this time, and so getting on the call ought to be a pain free experience.

Here’s the linky to sign up

Get involved people!

—-UPDATE—-

The recording of the webinar is now live and available free!

http://www.anymeeting.com/wikihyp/EE51D88282

Enjoy, Share, and Comment!

Joe

March 16, 2011   8 Comments

Blindingly Fast Text Hypnosis

This is a text trance from a while back…

William and I had never met or spoken, but he did know that I was a hypnotist. He also had never before been hypnotized.

I would say it’s most probably the quickest tested hypnosis ever done via text (with no previous installed PHS).

It took 1 minute 20 seconds from the open until we got an IMR, and another 4 minutes 40 seconds until I got confirmation for a negative visual hallucination.

Study it and then go do it yourself!

Joe

[4/21/2009 3:11:34 PM] Joe says: try this, put your fingers
[4/21/2009 3:11:37 PM] Joe says: on two keys
[4/21/2009 3:11:43 PM] Joe says: one for yes
[4/21/2009 3:11:45 PM] Joe says: and one for no
[4/21/2009 3:11:49 PM] Joe says: got that now?
[4/21/2009 3:11:52 PM] William says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:12:00 PM] Joe says: so give me the signal for yes
[4/21/2009 3:12:02 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:12:07 PM] Joe says: good
[4/21/2009 3:12:12 PM] Joe says: and the signal for no
[4/21/2009 3:12:13 PM] William says: n
[4/21/2009 3:12:17 PM] Joe says: great
[4/21/2009 3:12:19 PM] Joe says: so now
[4/21/2009 3:12:26 PM] Joe says: I’m going to ask your unconscious
[4/21/2009 3:12:33 PM] Joe says: to automatically move that yes finger
[4/21/2009 3:12:37 PM] Joe says: and signal yes
[4/21/2009 3:12:42 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:12:43 PM] Joe says: don’t do it consciously
[4/21/2009 3:12:50 PM] Joe says: was that unconscious?
[4/21/2009 3:12:54 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:12:59 PM] Joe says: perfect
[4/21/2009 3:13:03 PM] Joe says: and you are in trance now
[4/21/2009 3:13:23 PM] Joe says: and unconscious, can you make him feel a nice warm feeling in his chest now?
[4/21/2009 3:13:28 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:13:42 PM] Joe says: and please do that now and signal when yes when its done
[4/21/2009 3:13:51 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:13:55 PM] Joe says: perfect
[4/21/2009 3:14:07 PM] Joe says: and can you have his conscious mind tune out here?
[4/21/2009 3:14:11 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:14:15 PM] Joe says: so we can communicate for his own good now?
[4/21/2009 3:14:20 PM] Joe says: and please do that now
[4/21/2009 3:14:22 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:14:25 PM] Joe says: and signal when done
[4/21/2009 3:14:29 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:14:32 PM] Joe says: great
[4/21/2009 3:14:50 PM] Joe says: and can you make it that anything in the (_) is only for you and is unimportant to his conscious mind?
[4/21/2009 3:14:56 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:15:18 PM] Joe says: and can you make it so unimportant to his conscious so that he doesn’t notice it at all consciously?
[4/21/2009 3:15:27 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:15:43 PM] Joe says: and he skips over it consciously easily and quickly and it feels so natural and easy
[4/21/2009 3:15:47 PM] Joe says: and it feels good
[4/21/2009 3:15:51 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:15:53 PM] Joe says: and if he doesn’t notice that
[4/21/2009 3:16:03 PM] Joe says: and please do that now and signal when done
[4/21/2009 3:16:10 PM] William says: y
[4/21/2009 3:16:14 PM] Joe says: thank you
[4/21/2009 3:16:46 PM] Joe says: and please wake him now feeling amazingly great with that effect in full force having him not notice
[4/21/2009 3:16:59 PM] Joe says: how was that William?
[4/21/2009 3:17:06 PM] William says: nice
[4/21/2009 3:17:09 PM] Joe says: nice
[4/21/2009 3:17:11 PM] William says: but what happened really?
[4/21/2009 3:17:16 PM] Joe says: 3 (4) 7 2 9
[4/21/2009 3:17:21 PM] Joe says: what numbers do you see?
[4/21/2009 3:17:22 PM] William says: 3629
[4/21/2009 3:17:32 PM] William says: i mean 3729
[4/21/2009 3:17:35 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:18:08 PM] Joe says: (please make his name be lost to him for the next minute for his own good, and make him feel amazed by that now) it was trance
[4/21/2009 3:18:12 PM] Joe says: what is your name
[4/21/2009 3:18:19 PM] William says: William
[4/21/2009 3:18:21 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:18:23 PM] Joe says: very good
[4/21/2009 3:18:53 PM] Joe says: (please stick his leg to the floor for his own enjoyment now and make him enjoy that now) perfect
[4/21/2009 3:18:57 PM] Joe says: and please try
[4/21/2009 3:19:02 PM] Joe says: to lift that eg
[4/21/2009 3:19:05 PM] Joe says: leg
[4/21/2009 3:19:11 PM] Joe says: how does that feel now?
[4/21/2009 3:19:23 PM] William says: i cant move my leg?
[4/21/2009 3:19:25 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:19:30 PM] Joe says: are you in trance?
[4/21/2009 3:19:37 PM] William says: i dont know
[4/21/2009 3:19:41 PM] Joe says: hmmm
[4/21/2009 3:19:50 PM] Joe says: are you usually able to move that leg?
[4/21/2009 3:20:08 PM] William says: yes, but now it just stuck
[4/21/2009 3:20:18 PM] Joe says: (please make him forget his name for a minute now so he can fully enjoy the power of his mind) and how is that?
[4/21/2009 3:20:22 PM] Joe says: how is that?
[4/21/2009 3:20:28 PM] William says: strange
[4/21/2009 3:20:31 PM] Joe says: lets try your name again
[4/21/2009 3:20:34 PM] Joe says: what is it?
[4/21/2009 3:20:38 PM] William says: aa
[4/21/2009 3:20:39 PM] William says: wait
[4/21/2009 3:20:42 PM] Joe says: wait!
[4/21/2009 3:20:45 PM] Joe says: its gone!
[4/21/2009 3:20:49 PM] William says: no its not
[4/21/2009 3:20:52 PM] Joe says: lol
[4/21/2009 3:20:54 PM] William says: it just takes some time
[4/21/2009 3:20:56 PM] Joe says: what is it?
[4/21/2009 3:21:01 PM] William says: ahh
[4/21/2009 3:21:12 PM] Joe says: have you ever needed time to remember your name?
[4/21/2009 3:21:16 PM] William says: no
[4/21/2009 3:21:21 PM] Joe says: so are you in trance?
[4/21/2009 3:21:24 PM] William says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:21:28 PM] Joe says: wonderful
[4/21/2009 3:21:39 PM] Joe says: feels nice?
[4/21/2009 3:21:44 PM] William says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:21:51 PM] Joe says: (make him feel really really amazing now!) great
[4/21/2009 3:21:53 PM] Joe says: ahhh
[4/21/2009 3:21:56 PM] Joe says: that feels good!
[4/21/2009 3:22:05 PM] Joe says: you like that?
[4/21/2009 3:22:08 PM] William says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:22:10 PM] Joe says: great
[4/21/2009 3:22:20 PM] Joe says: so what would you like from trance?
[4/21/2009 3:23:08 PM] Joe says: (please make him feel a great want to go make a post on uncommon forum about being in trance as soon as we are done here for his own good) what would you like to experience?
[4/21/2009 3:23:11 PM] Joe says: what things
[4/21/2009 3:23:20 PM] William says: i dont know
[4/21/2009 3:23:31 PM] Joe says: (give him some ideas now please) Hmmm
[4/21/2009 3:23:34 PM] Joe says: any ideas?
[4/21/2009 3:23:39 PM] William says: maybe stuck in place?
[4/21/2009 3:23:43 PM] Joe says: okie
[4/21/2009 3:23:50 PM] Joe says: so are you stuck in place now?
[4/21/2009 3:23:57 PM] William says: not
[4/21/2009 3:24:33 PM] Joe says: (please make him stuck in place now with only his arms free) how about now?
[4/21/2009 3:24:38 PM] Joe says: stuck now?
[4/21/2009 3:24:44 PM] William says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:24:54 PM] Joe says: how cool is that?
[4/21/2009 3:24:59 PM] William says: weird
[4/21/2009 3:25:02 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:25:21 PM] Joe says: 1 (3) 8 3 0 type the numbers you see please now
[4/21/2009 3:25:26 PM] William says: 1830
[4/21/2009 3:25:53 PM] Joe says: (please make him be able to see the 3 from the last message now) what happened?
[4/21/2009 3:26:03 PM] Joe says: you didn’t see the (_)!
[4/21/2009 3:26:12 PM] William says: wow i just noticed that now
[4/21/2009 3:26:14 PM] Joe says: lol
[4/21/2009 3:26:16 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:26:31 PM] Joe says: (please remove all the effects now except for the (_) effect)
[4/21/2009 3:26:33 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:26:35 PM] Joe says: very cool
[4/21/2009 3:26:40 PM] Joe says: your unstuck now
[4/21/2009 3:26:44 PM] Joe says: and the name is back
[4/21/2009 3:26:48 PM] William says: yes i feel my legs again
[4/21/2009 3:26:50 PM] Joe says: yes
[4/21/2009 3:26:53 PM] Joe says: okie
[4/21/2009 3:26:57 PM] Joe says: i gotta run
[4/21/2009 3:27:12 PM] Joe says: go make that post on the forum
[4/21/2009 3:27:16 PM] Joe says: 🙂
[4/21/2009 3:27:21 PM] William says: yes i was on it
[4/21/2009 3:27:24 PM] Joe says: okie
[4/21/2009 3:27:26 PM] William says: but how u know that?
[4/21/2009 3:27:28 PM] Joe says: see you later
[4/21/2009 3:27:29 PM] William says: :O
[4/21/2009 3:27:37 PM] Joe says: I told you to do it lol

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